49 pensées sur “Are Twitch Trends Bad For Gaming?

  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    Are Twitch Trends Bad For Gaming? EposVox joins the conversation today to talk about the influence YouTube & Twitch culture have had on our perception and evaluation of games. Is the hyper Trendy nature of twitch influencing gamers opinions of games in an unhealthy way? Or does Twitch & YouTube offer huge benefits to gamers, allowing them to see and experience titles before purchasing? Let us know what you think in the comments below. Thanks for watching! If you enjoyed be sure to thumbs the video up and subscribe for more. Also subscribe to EposVox https://www.youtube.com/eposvox

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I play Overwatch and occasionally I'll boot up Battlefield 1 but aside from that I don't really have any fps games I care about. The FPS genre has been stale for a long time.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I've been gaming since '94. I worked for blockbuster for years until their ultimate demise. You guys have made amazing points. I miss demos, and renting games; however, I guess my own personal purchasing choices are not influenced by "let's plays" either…like you said, they are like the demos now

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I think its a double edge sword. I think they help make games popular but some developers take the top tier players opinion to heart and completely change a game to alienate people who loved games for the reasons those top tier players didn't

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    Yea man things were way different back in the day, now I almost feel obliged to watch a review or a let's play before I buy a game

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I played Shadow of the Hedgehog on the original Xbox for years; as well as, Sonic the Hedgehog and Sonic Unleashed on the Xbox 360 when I was a kid and loved it, and I found out a couple years back that they weren’t all that well liked. It’s no problem though, as my love for those games won’t change, as from a technical standpoint those my game probably weren’t the best, however, from a enjoyment standpoint they did their job exceedingly well.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I'm 24 and i have been into gaming since i was 4. For the longest time until I made friends and got an xbox my entire exposure to games was what my mom bought me and my brother. Some hit and some missed. The first game i ever got to make an executive purchase decision was paper mario and the thousand year door back in 2004, and only because I had been given paper mario for N64, which i still own the cartridge to this day and is my favorite game in my life let alone any other rpg game. Youtube for the most part is dead to me for lets plays, i prefer the interactivity with twitch streamers making the experience more personal. I make purchase decisions based on YouTube and user reviews because I don't trust game informer, ign, etc anymore. To me the internet has enhanced the industry for me. I for one know im not buying the cancer that is CoD black ops 4, because the campaign was ditched for something more monitizable, and any game i hear that has chance based slot machines, wait i mean loot boxes for purchase with money I am probably not going to buy it from this point forward.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I agree gaming for me is not what it uses to be. I feel like gamers follow the sheep mentality lately. The streamers and youtubers have such a massive influence on what games people people play. I feel like it's nearly impossible to organically discover a game to play in today's gaming world without first being influenced by an online personality and i feel like it is hurting game development as well. Look at the battle royale trend. All the developers want to catch that wave so they put all the original ideas they may have had on the back burner just so they can rake in on the current trending sucess.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    First off, I'd like to say, it's an incredibly nice change of pace to see a YouTube upload that invites further discussion. Especially for a discussion that is quite needed in the gaming circle right now.

    This is something that I don't see being talked about, but have thought about and felt slowly but steadily happening in recent years. Our perception of games and their longevity have been warped by mainstream/popular expectations and the hyper-trendy nature of YouTube/Twitch, and in my opinion, games have been, excuse my inadequate prose, much more ephemeral because of it. More specifically: the mere expectations of popularity and relevance amplify the actual popularity/longevity of the game.

    Take Stardew Valley for instance. When it first came out, it was popular for a while, then faded into the background because farming simulators are fun to watch. (Really, it's because newer, trendier games get released and then steal the focus. And the cycle repeats. This has less to do with SV's genre.) Suddenly, SV got newfound attention again once the multiplayer beta came out, and just like last time, it'll fade into the background of gamers' minds again. This is not how Stardew Valley, and many games like it, were meant to be enjoyed, but the current gaming culture limits a game's ability to stand the test of time and hold the same value to the average gamer. The corollary to this scenario would be what had happened with your typical Harvest Moon game in this case.

    Despite me not watching let's plays on YouTube or streams on Twitch, (besides a certain Pokemon streamer when I'm shiny hunting), I do notice that my ability to enjoy games has negatively changed, and that this has correlated with both my age and the changing internet culture. I find myself missing the older days of video gaming on many occasions, but still try to enjoy games to the best of my ability.

    I look forward to seeing other content creators throughout YouTube share their input on all this.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    Great discussion fellas. I feel like twitch is a popularity contest now. Gotta stream whatever the next "flavor of the month" game that's in at the time to get the views. Back in the days of justin.tv or early twitch, there was a lot more diversity. So many current streamers have just rode the wave of Fortnite/PUBG to the point where the people streaming different games get buried so deep on the site. Plus there's always the people jumping in their comments sections asking them if they will ever give Fortnite a try which I assume gets old real fast if you don't want to play it. Then, there are some streamers who played different games but changed up to try to stay current. It's not really about playing what you like anymore imo.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I've enjoyed ET for Atari, Mario is Missing, Empire Earth, and many others over the course of my life. I've also played a lot of quirky eurojank games with unique features that rarely earn them wide popularity, unless they were called Minecraft. At this point, I figure every game has someone on this planet who'll enjoy it forever, and someone to whom it has nothing to offer. The only thing a game's popularity means to me is how easy it is to find out about it.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I know you mentioned it briefly in the video but do you feel indirect pressure to only make content on games that are recently or fairly popular? I know you have a full professional career outside of YT so you're not relying on following gaming trends in your videos in order to make a living. Do you feel the pressure to just get more views or grow your channel? I've always loved your content and I like the variety but even some not so relevant games make really good videos on your channel like your recent Halo Reach video did really well. I'll be honest I don't care for Destiny I respect that you still somewhat have faith in Bungie to turn the franchise around, so I do watch those videos cuz I like to hear your viewpoint on such things. Are you interested at all in participating in the competitive Halo Wars 2 community? I know you enjoyed that game and we have a dedicated group that runs tourneys regularly like every week or so if you are interested in playing. Might make for some fun videos and definitely some good times. You can also play on either pc or xbox, custom matches are cross play which is nice. Wish you the best man really enjoyed this video.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    That’s how I feel about Spider-Man 3 (movie) I loved it as a kid and watched it countless times and looking back on it…

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    LoD was my jam man, it;s still one of my fav Jrpgs despite the flawas of the mechanics which make it trivial for adults, but as a kid the addition system to me was a great idea and a fun challenge to try and master every character.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I'm around the same age as you, maybe older (get'n real close to 30) and I recall the same. In the past I would visit the homes of my more wealthy friends and see what new games they purchased, or I would take my time when my family would go to the mall and visit EB games to look through the bargain bin, and I will never forget the demos my brother would bring home from his friends. Now… its a very small handful of games that are super popular and a load of games trying to copy them. In the past I genuinely felt like I had a library of different games to play, now I feel like I only have access to copies and sequels with no gems in sight.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I've never taken anyone else's opinion as fact. There are alot of games that people say aren't good but they were a blast for me.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    these days humans think the most watched game on twitch is a good game
    that logic is just sad these days

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I think the worst thing about twitch/youtube gaming is the "Us vs Them" mentality that comes with it, Just the comparisons that every fanbase makes really kills games

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I feel like this concept could be applied to anything. For example I have a Samsung Galaxy s5 and everyone at school is telling me to buy a IPhone.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I think people seem to think that if a game isn't being streamed as much then it may be dead and therefore people aren't playing it, which totally might not be the case. The effect that would have is that people may think that nobody is playing it, and then not play it, and the the population drops hard. That may've been what happened to Lawbreakers a little.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    Fore sure, not playing the top twitch games and youtube games is like doing the opposite of what the cool kids do and it sucks. One of my friends told me he doesn't play bf1 because nobody talks about it or plays it I showed him the player count and he answered yeah but nobody streams bf1 … Bro what

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    Opinions being shaped by the internet is sadly a very real thing. One of my friends is 26 but autistic and it can drive me crazy how he'll literally take the negative internet opinion on something and just take it as his own opinion. Several games/movies/shows he talks about as if it is completely a FACT that they are terrible garbage and yet has never seen or tried any of them. I guess why would you try something you already decided is garbage, but that's the problem he's already let the internet decide for him. It's sad cause he is totally pulled to the rage porn types, the ones where being angry and negative is like their thing. I assumed this happened to young kids and they would grow out of it, but the guy is 26 and he's not growing out of it : /

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    Ok I like this topic and I gotta say that YouTube and twitch has nothing to do with it. I think people in general just do this. I mean i got example have you ever seen a game video. Then when going to comment you scrolled down trough the comments first to see what everyone else is saying first. I'm just gonna leave it there cause I don't wanna start no big ass debate on your post. But just think about that.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I just wish more people played titan fall 2 cuz it’s really good and I just know in my heart EA will screw up titan fall 3):

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    This should be lika a podcast or something xd, like dont hold it back just talk for hours ;D

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I do remember renting games and that whole shebang, it was nice, just trying out a game, and deciding based on how far you got, it was a nice way to check things out and make a solid decision on how to spend what cash you had. And on twitch, idk I don’t watch too much twitch, but in almost any case, I watch it more for the streamer instead of the game.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I learned a lot from being semi involved with community games, and I tend to keep my own opinion of those games. But I don’t really know that free marketing can be bad at all for any product. I think youtubers have it the worst because being genuine or outside of the trending opinion, or not catering to their viewers is what hurts both sides of the screen the most.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    I miss demos of games with my lil bro and if we love demo we buy game I remember Xbox 360 we demo rdragon ball z raging blast 2 and play the demo sooo much we spent months saving money for game now oh ign gave score 6/10 not worth even thinking about saving

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    Hey man, I know I’d definitely watch the heck out of some Spider-Man gameplay lol. After I 100% the game for myself of course

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    Oh and about the playing games things and discovering that they aren't popular

    I really don't like stuff getting bashed
    It just makes me think while playing it "this is bad, I shouldn't like it"

    I really prefer pointing out the positives rather than the flaws

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    Mine was Superman 64. I loved flying around and going underwater as Superman. Apparently that’s one of the worst games ever made lol. I was maybe 4 years old when I loved it

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    Halo CE had a demo on the disc for Fuzion Frenzy. I played the demo over and over until I finally got my own copy. Today it's still one of my favorite games ever.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    good discussion in this video never really thought of this but ya twtich/youtube probably have a big influence on games. also whats the name of the first song in the video and song at around 8:50 in the video i really liked the beat

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    Now on the topic of the video, i don't think that you tube or twitch are the problem. For me they just made the gamers who only follows whats popular even worse than what they were in my time (80's kid here), while in my youth without internet the "maria vai com as outras" that means "Mary goes with the others" that is a portugues term for people who doesn't have their own opinion and only follow the marjoriry, so, as i was saying this kind of people were confined to the opinion of the people who surounded them, in the neighborhood or school, but now with internet, you tube and twitch i think we are seeing a snowball effect of the "Maria vai com as outras" while before they were limited by the people near them, now they have no limitation causing the phenom that we are seeing right now on you tube and twitch.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    What are you saying BBK? Legend of Dragoon is an amazing rpg, one of the best of the ps1 there is no shame in liking that game, in fact you won some respect points from me for liking Legend of Dragoon!

    It is true that it didn't age well, but wen the game was fresh it was increnible for the time.

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  • 1 juillet 2018 à 7:42
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    Titanfall 2 is such a good looking and fun exciting game. What happened to it?

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